Discussion:
Movie Recommendations?
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Brettster
2010-07-28 23:48:57 UTC
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I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
like those too.

To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
this time period:

Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.

Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
others did.

Thanks!
a***@yahoo.com
2010-07-29 00:01:54 UTC
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On Jul 28, 7:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>
> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> others did.

Some of these are not too "small", but I think they are worthwhile:
Rabbit Proof Fence, Crazy Heart (If you liked Maggie Glylenthal (sp?)
in Sherrybaby, you should like this too)
The Lives of Others (German), The Invention of Lying, Quiz Show,
Election, Little Creatures. I'll probably think of a few others.
Brettster
2010-07-29 00:32:15 UTC
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Bagdad Cafe is a great recommendation, thanks. So are Cinema Paradiso,
Rabbit-Proof Fence, Slapshot, The Stepfather, Invention of Lying and
Hope and Glory.

Arty, I can't find a movie called Little Creatures. You're probably
thinking of Heavenly Creatures.

I have already seen and love the following that have been mentioned:
The Man Who Would Be King, Little Big Man, Broadway Danny Rose, Modern
Romance and Election. I have seen everything of Alexander Payne; he's
my favorite modern director.

I saw King Rat a couple of weeks ago and was blown away by it!

To Kill a Mockingbird and Treasure of Sierra Madre are iconic. Who
hasn't heard of those already?
a***@yahoo.com
2010-07-29 00:35:46 UTC
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On Jul 28, 8:32 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bagdad Cafe is a great recommendation, thanks. So are Cinema Paradiso,
> Rabbit-Proof Fence, Slapshot, The Stepfather, Invention of Lying and
> Hope and Glory.
>
> Arty, I can't find a movie called Little Creatures. You're probably
> thinking of Heavenly Creatures.

Sorry, the movie I was thinking of is Little Children
Greg Goss
2010-07-29 01:29:12 UTC
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Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:

>I saw King Rat a couple of weeks ago and was blown away by it!

Is that the Clavell WW2 prison camp novel? I was unaware that there
was a movie from it.
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Brettster
2010-07-29 03:52:20 UTC
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On Jul 28, 6:29 pm, Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
> Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I saw King Rat a couple of weeks ago and was blown away by it!
>
> Is that the Clavell WW2 prison camp novel?  I was unaware that there
> was a movie from it.

Yes, from the Clavell novel. It's not just a movie—it's a truly great
movie. George Segal, Tom Courtenay, James Fox and the peerless John
Mills.
Lesmond
2010-07-29 02:34:02 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:32:15 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:

>Bagdad Cafe is a great recommendation, thanks. So are Cinema Paradiso,
>Rabbit-Proof Fence, Slapshot, The Stepfather,

You LIE!

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a***@yahoo.com
2010-07-29 14:32:27 UTC
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On Jul 28, 10:34 pm, "Lesmond" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:32:15 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:
> >Bagdad Cafe is a great recommendation, thanks. So are Cinema Paradiso,
> >Rabbit-Proof Fence, Slapshot, The Stepfather,
>
> You LIE!

The lie hasn't been invented yet.
John Hatpin
2010-07-29 00:08:01 UTC
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Brettster wrote:

> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>
> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> others did.

Top of my head: Bagdad Cafe?
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John Hatpin
Les Albert
2010-07-29 00:09:59 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
>in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
>to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
>anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
>fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
>small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
>should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
>cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
>like those too.


From my movie collection, in no particular order (some are more than
25 years old):

Hope and Glory
The Man Who Would Be King
The Stepfather
Cinema Paradiso
Slapshot
Zulu
To Kill a Mockingbird
Bang the Drum Slowly
Little Big Man
Harry and Tonto
Broadway Danny Rose
Modern Romance
King Rat
Treasure of Sierra Madre
Sexy Beast

If you decide you like any of those films then I will go through the
entire list of about 300 movies in my collection.

Les
Lesmond
2010-07-29 02:33:35 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:09:59 -0700, Les Albert wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
>>in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
>>to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
>>anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
>>fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
>>small, potentially obscure/indie the anti-Inception. Your choices
>>should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
>>cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
>>like those too.
>
>
>From my movie collection, in no particular order (some are more than
>25 years old):
>
>Hope and Glory

Eh. He might like it.

>The Man Who Would Be King

I loved it. He'll hate it.

>The Stepfather

I GUARANTEE he will hate this. Wonderful movie, though.

>Cinema Paradiso

He'll like it.

>Slapshot

He'll hate it.

>To Kill a Mockingbird

He *should* like it.

>Bang the Drum Slowly

Okay, this one he has to like.

>Little Big Man

And this.

But he knows better than to listen to me.

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rroger
2010-07-29 00:13:30 UTC
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On Jul 28, 7:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>
> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> others did.
>
> Thanks!

Avalon, Awakenings, The Shawshank Redeption, and The Green Mile are
all GOOD dramas!
rroger
2010-07-29 00:14:13 UTC
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On Jul 28, 8:13 pm, rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 7:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> > in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> > to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> > anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> > fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> > small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> > should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> > cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> > like those too.
>
> > To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> > this time period:
>
> > Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> > Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> > City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> > Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> > Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> > Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> > others did.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> Avalon, Awakenings, The Shawshank Redeption, and The Green Mile are
> all GOOD dramas!

Sorry, Redemption
rroger
2010-07-29 00:23:36 UTC
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On Jul 28, 8:14 pm, rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 8:13 pm, rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 28, 7:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> > > in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> > > to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> > > anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> > > fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> > > small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> > > should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> > > cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> > > like those too.
>
> > > To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> > > this time period:
>
> > > Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> > > Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> > > City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> > > Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> > > Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> > > Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> > > others did.
>
> > > Thanks!
>
> > Avalon, Awakenings, The Shawshank Redeption, and The Green Mile are
> > all GOOD dramas!
>
> Sorry, Redemption

If you want something that will throw you for a loop, try "The Game"
with Michael Douglas.
rroger
2010-07-31 00:56:44 UTC
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On Jul 28, 8:13 pm, rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 7:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> > in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> > to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> > anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> > fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> > small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> > should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> > cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> > like those too.
>
> > To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> > this time period:
>
> > Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> > Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> > City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> > Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> > Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> > Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> > others did.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> Avalon, Awakenings, The Shawshank Redeption, and The Green Mile are
> all GOOD dramas!

Here's another: "Benny and Joon".
John Mc
2010-07-29 00:22:59 UTC
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Brettster wrote:
> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>
> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> others did.
>
> Thanks!
>


Comfort and Joy
Gregory's Girl


John Mc.
Woward Holy Hail
2010-07-29 00:33:49 UTC
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Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote

> Frozen River

Mystic River

> Before Sunrise

Before Sunset


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Bob
2010-08-13 20:33:33 UTC
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On Jul 28, 8:33 pm, Woward Holy Hail <***@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Frozen River
>
> Mystic River

How about "Mystic Pizza"? I saw that on an airplane. Without the
sound, though. Should've had intertitles.
Lee Ayrton
2010-08-14 00:45:36 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:33:33 -0700, Bob wrote:

> On Jul 28, 8:33 pm, Woward Holy Hail <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>> > Frozen River
>>
>> Mystic River
>
> How about "Mystic Pizza"? I saw that on an airplane. Without the
> sound, though. Should've had intertitles.

Ah, yes. Mystic Pizza. The movie about braless young women in tee
shirts that spawned a mediocre pizza place and tourist trap.
Lesmond
2010-08-14 02:51:56 UTC
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David J. Martin
2010-08-14 03:13:41 UTC
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"Lesmond" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:33:33 -0700 (PDT), Bob wrote:
>
> >On Jul 28, 8:33ÿpm, Woward Holy Hail <***@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote
> >>
> >> > Frozen River
> >>
> >> Mystic River
> >
> >How about "Mystic Pizza"?
>
> My son had Frozen Pizza for dinner. It's all circular.
>

He likes it cold?

David
Rick B.
2010-08-14 03:24:10 UTC
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"Lesmond" <***@verizon.net> wrote in
news:***@192.168.0.6:

> My son had Frozen Pizza for dinner. It's all circular.

No, you can get those rectangular slices, or French bread pizza...
Lesmond
2010-07-29 02:15:08 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:

>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
>in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
>to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
>anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
>fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
>small, potentially obscure/indie the anti-Inception. Your choices
>should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
>cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
>like those too.
>
>To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
>this time period:
>
>Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
>Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
>City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
>Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
>Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
>Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
>others did.
>
>Thanks!

No, I will never recommend a movie to you again.

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Opus the Penguin
2010-07-29 05:59:51 UTC
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Lesmond (***@verizon.net) wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:
>
>>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially
>>interested in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit
>>your suggestions to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm
>>not interested in anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi,
>>mafia/gangster, fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to
>>discover films that are small, potentially obscure/indie the
>>anti-Inception. Your choices should be absorbing, moving and
>>well-written, without a lot of cliches. If you know of a thriller,
>>romance drama or tearjerker, I like those too.
>>
>>To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed
>>during this time period:
>>
>>Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death
>>on Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's
>>Fool, City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation,
>>Happiness, Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>>
>>Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't
>>enjoy Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et
>>al., the way others did.
>>
>>Thanks!
>
> No, I will never recommend a movie to you again.
>

He hated Ishtar?

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Lesmond
2010-07-29 06:36:22 UTC
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:59:51 GMT, Opus the Penguin wrote:

>Lesmond (***@verizon.net) wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:
>>
>>>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially
>>>interested in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit
>>>your suggestions to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm
>>>not interested in anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi,
>>>mafia/gangster, fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to
>>>discover films that are small, potentially obscure/indie the
>>>anti-Inception. Your choices should be absorbing, moving and
>>>well-written, without a lot of cliches. If you know of a thriller,
>>>romance drama or tearjerker, I like those too.
>>>
>>>To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed
>>>during this time period:
>>>
>>>Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death
>>>on Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's
>>>Fool, City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation,
>>>Happiness, Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>>>
>>>Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't
>>>enjoy Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et
>>>al., the way others did.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>
>> No, I will never recommend a movie to you again.
>>
>
>He hated Ishtar?

It's even worse than that.


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Brettster
2010-07-29 08:25:36 UTC
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On Jul 28, 11:36 pm, "Lesmond" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:59:51 GMT, Opus the Penguin wrote:
> >Lesmond (***@verizon.net) wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:
>
> >>>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially
> >>>interested in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit
> >>>your suggestions to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm
> >>>not interested in anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi,
> >>>mafia/gangster, fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to
> >>>discover films that are small, potentially obscure/indie the
> >>>anti-Inception. Your choices should be absorbing, moving and
> >>>well-written, without a lot of cliches. If you know of a thriller,
> >>>romance drama or tearjerker, I like those too.
>
> >>>To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed
> >>>during this time period:
>
> >>>Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death
> >>>on Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's
> >>>Fool, City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation,
> >>>Happiness, Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> >>>Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't
> >>>enjoy Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et
> >>>al., the way others did.
>
> >>>Thanks!
>
> >> No, I will never recommend a movie to you again.
>
> >He hated Ishtar?
>
> It's even worse than that.


Ow. I hurt my corneas rolling my eyes.
Lesmond
2010-07-29 11:52:59 UTC
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Opus the Penguin
2010-07-29 17:44:45 UTC
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Lesmond (***@verizon.net) wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:25:36 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:
>>On Jul 28, 11:36ÿpm, "Lesmond" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:59:51 GMT, Opus the Penguin wrote:
>>> >Lesmond (***@verizon.net) wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>Thanks!
>>>
>>> >> No, I will never recommend a movie to you again.
>>>
>>> >He hated Ishtar?
>>>
>>> It's even worse than that.
>>
>>
>>Ow. I hurt my corneas rolling my eyes.
>
> Serves you right. But I still have a crush on you.
>

Come on you two. Just tell me what happened and think of me as your
undegreed counsellor who did all the course work but lost a lawsuit.

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Brettster
2010-07-29 19:40:25 UTC
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On Jul 29, 10:44 am, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin
+***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Come on you two. Just tell me what happened and think of me as your
> undegreed counsellor who did all the course work but lost a lawsuit.

I am assuming she is a Wes Anderson fan. I am not.

However, I did greatly enjoy his American Express commercial. No
kidding. It's probably the most brilliant advertisement I've ever
seen. It was definitely the funniest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh-4jxn7oSc

Oh, and I liked the Fantastic Mr Fox as well. So there's hope for me
yet.
Lesmond
2010-07-30 04:25:49 UTC
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M C Hamster
2010-08-03 01:59:01 UTC
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:25:49 -0400 (EDT), "Lesmond"
<***@verizon.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:40:25 -0700 (PDT), Brettster wrote:
>
>>On Jul 29, 10:44ÿam, Opus the Penguin <opusthepenguin
>>+***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Come on you two. Just tell me what happened and think of me as your
>>> undegreed counsellor who did all the course work but lost a lawsuit.
>>
>>I am assuming she is a Wes Anderson fan. I am not.
>
>Huh? I can't stand him.
>
>>
>>However, I did greatly enjoy his American Express commercial. No
>>kidding. It's probably the most brilliant advertisement I've ever
>>seen. It was definitely the funniest.
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh-4jxn7oSc
>>
>>Oh, and I liked the Fantastic Mr Fox as well. So there's hope for me
>>yet.
>
>You don't remember? Oh, okay. You don't remember.

Was this when he sorta liked my lame recommendation, Friendly
Persuasion, and didn't like something you recommended to him? I don't
remember what it was though.
Bob E.
2010-07-29 02:50:07 UTC
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Brettster wrote:
> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>
> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> others did.
>
> Thanks!
>

Whale Rider
The Parrots of Telegraph Hill
Gumby Dharma
Crumb

(the last three are documentaries, and the last two are bio-pics, not
dramas, but go ahead, branch out...get to know some different-strokes
folks).

--Bob
DT
2010-07-29 02:56:00 UTC
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In article
<f9d7b359-d2a1-47af-a1f8-***@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
***@gmail.com says...
>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
>in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
>to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
>anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
>fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
>small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
>should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
>cliches.


You want characters? Try Gummo or Zombieland.

--
DT
Bermuda999
2010-07-29 04:00:29 UTC
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On Jul 28, 10:56 pm, DT <***@SPAMwowway.com> wrote:
> In article
> <f9d7b359-d2a1-47af-a1f8-***@y12g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@gmail.com says...
>
> >I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> >in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> >to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> >anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> >fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> >small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> >should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> >cliches.
>
> You want characters? Try... Zombieland.


"I haven't cried like that since Titanic!"
Opus the Penguin
2010-07-29 05:59:51 UTC
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Brettster (***@gmail.com) wrote:

> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed
> during this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death
> on Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's
> Fool, City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation,
> Happiness, Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't
> enjoy Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et
> al., the way others did.


Hmmmm. What camp does Raising Arizona fit in--too quirky or
enjoyable? I really want to recommend Fishing with Gandhi, but I bet
you'd hate it.

Have you seen Return to Me with David Duchovny and Minnie Driver?
That might fit your criteria. It's a romantic drama/comedy.

I think you might like The Grey Fox. Richard Farnsworth's best work,
in my opinion. And I saw it in college, so there's no way it was more
than 25 years ago. Right?

Sigh.

Also, slightly earlier than your target, try 1982's Shoot the Moon
with Albert Finney and Diane Keaton. Definitely a "character-fueled
drama". It's everything that Ordinary People and American Beauty
would have been if those films had dropped their heavy-handed
pretentiousness and depicted real people.

--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
Brettster
2010-07-29 08:24:44 UTC
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On Jul 28, 10:59 pm, Opus the Penguin

> Hmmmm. What camp does Raising Arizona fit in--too quirky or
> enjoyable? I really want to recommend Fishing with Gandhi, but I bet
> you'd hate it.

I think I mentioned Fargo as one of my favorites in the OP, so it's
safe to assume I'm a fan of the Coen brothers. Someone on IMDB said
FWG was like "Sling Blade meets Dumb and Dumber." Hmm.

> Have you seen Return to Me with David Duchovny and Minnie Driver?
> That might fit your criteria. It's a romantic drama/comedy.

Cool. Thanks. I recently saw Duchovny in The Joneses, and really
enjoyed it.

> I think you might like The Grey Fox. Richard Farnsworth's best work,
> in my opinion. And I saw it in college, so there's no way it was more
> than 25 years ago. Right?

Loved Farnsworth in The Straight Story, but Grey Fox does not appear
to be on DVD as yet. I should have stipulated.

> Also, slightly earlier than your target, try 1982's Shoot the Moon
> with Albert Finney and Diane Keaton. Definitely a "character-fueled
> drama". It's everything that Ordinary People and American Beauty
> would have been if those films had dropped their heavy-handed
> pretentiousness and depicted real people.

Yeah, saw that when it first came out, when I was in college. Good
movie. I'm a Finney fan. I recently caught Saturday Night and Sunday
Morning -- a very impressive piece of work. Oddly, though, Tom Jones
left me cold.

Thanks, Opus.
Opus the Penguin
2010-07-29 12:41:21 UTC
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Brettster (***@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Jul 28, 10:59ÿpm, Opus the Penguin
>
>> I think you might like The Grey Fox. Richard Farnsworth's best
>> work, in my opinion. And I saw it in college, so there's no way
>> it was more than 25 years ago. Right?
>
> Loved Farnsworth in The Straight Story, but Grey Fox does not
> appear to be on DVD as yet. I should have stipulated.


D'oh! I'd forgotten that. One of the great losses. It used to be
available on VHS. And the soundtrack (which would make my top 5 movie
soundtracks) was available on LP or cassette. Then somehow, during the
transition to CD and DVD, The Grey Fox was forgotten. I've never
figured it out.

--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
rroger
2010-07-29 11:16:06 UTC
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On Jul 28, 7:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>
> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.
>
> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> others did.
>
> Thanks!

Check out "Wrestling Ernest Hemingway".
Nasti J
2010-07-29 22:30:07 UTC
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On Jul 28, 4:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.


Being Julia
Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day
Big Trouble
The Commitments
Heart and Souls
Home for the Holidays
Making Mr. Right
My Blue Heaven

njg
Brettster
2010-08-05 06:40:33 UTC
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On Jul 29, 3:30 pm, Nasti J <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Being Julia
> Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day
> Big Trouble
> The Commitments
> Heart and Souls
> Home for the Holidays
> Making Mr. Right
> My Blue Heaven

You had me right up until that last one, which negates all your
previous recommendations.
Nasti J
2010-08-05 20:45:48 UTC
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On Aug 4, 11:40 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 3:30 pm, Nasti J <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Being Julia
> > Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day
> > Big Trouble
> > The Commitments
> > Heart and Souls
> > Home for the Holidays
> > Making Mr. Right
> > My Blue Heaven
>
> You had me right up until that last one, which negates all your
> previous recommendations.

Gee, I'm crushed
groo
2010-07-31 00:29:24 UTC
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Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>


Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.

Memento. One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.

Is the mini-series "Lonesome Dove" out on DVD? If so, watch it. Not quite
as good as the book, but very good. Don't worry about it being a Western.
You won't care.

Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
swearing, it is a great movie.

Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an Australian comedy-drama. I
think you'd probably enjoy it.






--
"In lieu of answering your question, I'll mention moose droppings." -
RichT, afca
Lee Ayrton
2010-07-31 00:54:29 UTC
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000, groo wrote:


> Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
> swearing, it is a great movie.

"Some" blood? I would add that is has a very high squirm-and-wince index.
bill van
2010-07-31 03:50:42 UTC
Permalink
In article <i2vs85$4v7$***@reader1.panix.com>,
Lee Ayrton <***@panix.com.nul> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000, groo wrote:
>
>
> > Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
> > swearing, it is a great movie.
>
> "Some" blood? I would add that is has a very high squirm-and-wince index.

It's Tarantino. It's comedy.

bill
Lee Ayrton
2010-08-01 02:06:23 UTC
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:50:42 -0700, bill van wrote:

> In article <i2vs85$4v7$***@reader1.panix.com>,
> Lee Ayrton <***@panix.com.nul> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000, groo wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
>> > swearing, it is a great movie.
>>
>> "Some" blood? I would add that is has a very high squirm-and-wince
>> index.
>
> It's Tarantino. It's comedy.

It's Tarantino. It is haughty, school-boyish and annoying.
Mark Steese
2010-08-01 18:30:29 UTC
Permalink
Lee Ayrton <***@panix.com.nul> wrote in news:i32kqv$8ph$9
@reader1.panix.com:

> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:50:42 -0700, bill van wrote:
>
>> In article <i2vs85$4v7$***@reader1.panix.com>,
>> Lee Ayrton <***@panix.com.nul> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000, groo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
>>> > swearing, it is a great movie.
>>>
>>> "Some" blood? I would add that is has a very high squirm-and-wince
>>> index.
>>
>> It's Tarantino. It's comedy.
>
> It's Tarantino. It is haughty, school-boyish and annoying.

I get how a Tarantino nonfan would be so misguided as to think his
movies are schoolboyish and annoying, but *haughty*?
--
Opposing phalanxes of automobiles stream and stop, stream and stop,their
motors agitated by complex refinements of the same subtance that
preserved, in the La Brea Pits, those petrified relics of vanished forms
of life. -David Lavender
groo
2010-08-02 01:48:34 UTC
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groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
>
> Memento. One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
>
> Is the mini-series "Lonesome Dove" out on DVD? If so, watch it. Not
> quite as good as the book, but very good. Don't worry about it being
> a Western. You won't care.
>
> Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
> swearing, it is a great movie.
>
> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an Australian
> comedy-drama. I think you'd probably enjoy it.
>

Oh, another one I'm pretty sure you'd like - (500) Days of Summer.




--
"One reason that the ignorant also tend to be the blissfully self-
assured, the researchers believe, is that the skills required for
competence often are the same skills necessary to recognize
competence." - Erica Goode
groo
2010-08-02 03:39:51 UTC
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groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
>>
>> Memento. One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
>>
>> Is the mini-series "Lonesome Dove" out on DVD? If so, watch it. Not
>> quite as good as the book, but very good. Don't worry about it being
>> a Western. You won't care.
>>
>> Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
>> swearing, it is a great movie.
>>
>> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an Australian
>> comedy-drama. I think you'd probably enjoy it.
>>
>
> Oh, another one I'm pretty sure you'd like - (500) Days of Summer.
>

And here's a non-nomination: "Cold Souls". We just watched this supposed
comedy, which was almost entirely humor-free. It did have one gut-
bustingly funny moment, though. There was a scene with a barking,
snarling Doberman. This prompted our 7 pound Maltipoo to start growling
at the TV. He was SO ready to tear that loser up.



--
"One reason that the ignorant also tend to be the blissfully self-
assured, the researchers believe, is that the skills required for
competence often are the same skills necessary to recognize
competence." - Erica Goode
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-02 12:02:00 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 1, 11:39 pm, groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
>
> >> Memento.  One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
>
> >> Is the mini-series "Lonesome Dove" out on DVD? If so, watch it.  Not
> >> quite as good as the book, but very good.  Don't worry about it being
> >> a Western. You won't care.  
>
> >> Reservoir Dogs - as long as you don't mind some blood and a lot of
> >> swearing, it is a great movie.
>
> >> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an Australian
> >> comedy-drama. I think you'd probably enjoy it.
>
> > Oh, another one I'm pretty sure you'd like - (500) Days of Summer.  
>
> And here's a non-nomination: "Cold Souls".  We just watched this supposed
> comedy, which was almost entirely humor-free.  It did have one gut-
> bustingly funny moment, though.  There was a scene with a barking,
> snarling Doberman.  This prompted our 7 pound Maltipoo to start growling
> at the TV.  He was SO ready to tear that loser up.  

I kinda of liked that movie.
Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
funny.
Boron Elgar
2010-08-02 12:28:03 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
>more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
>funny.

You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?

I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
old-time favorite SF novels/series.

Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
languished, unoptioned.

Bah.

Boron
rroger
2010-08-02 12:59:45 UTC
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On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
> >funny.
>
> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>
> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>
> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> languished, unoptioned.
>
> Bah.


In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
Boron Elgar
2010-08-02 14:15:27 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:59:45 -0700 (PDT), rroger <***@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>
>> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
>> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
>> >funny.
>>
>> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>
>> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>>
>> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>> languished, unoptioned.
>>
>> Bah.
>
>
>In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?

That is secret language and you'll have to get permission from the
cabal for me to reveal it.

Boron
rroger
2010-08-02 17:12:25 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 2, 10:15 am, Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:59:45 -0700 (PDT), rroger <***@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
> >> >funny.
>
> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>
> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>
> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> >> languished, unoptioned.
>
> >> Bah.
>
> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>
> That is secret language and you'll have to get permission from the
> cabal for me to reveal it.

HUH?!
Les Albert
2010-08-02 17:41:37 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 10:12:25 -0700 (PDT), rroger <***@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 2, 10:15 am, Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:59:45 -0700 (PDT), rroger <***@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>
>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
>> >> >funny.

>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>> >> Bah.

>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?

>> That is secret language and you'll have to get permission from the
>> cabal for me to reveal it.

>HUH?!



Cabal: a conspiratorial group of plotters or intriguers.

An AFCA cabal has existed here for years. Some of its members have
been identified, but they deny that there is an AFCA cabal. The new
TV series, "Rubicon", is based on the AFCA cabal:

http://www.amctv.com/originals/Rubicon/

Les
Peter Boulding
2010-08-03 13:05:12 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:41:37 -0700, Les Albert <***@aol.com> wrote in
<***@4ax.com>:

>Cabal: a conspiratorial group of plotters or intriguers.

With the added implication that it's a (usually secret) group within a
group.

>An AFCA cabal has existed here for years. Some of its members have
>been identified, but they deny that there is an AFCA cabal.

Not so.

Real members of the AFCA cabal never refer to it, either to confirm or deny
such an accusation (see Rule Two). Wannabes--some of whom, like myself, have
spent years hoping in vain for an invite--try to ingratiate themselves with
the cabal by posting responses along the lines of "There Is No Cabal" (or
TINC for short) but it doesn't work (well, not for me, at any rate). Those
who gratuitously refer to the cabal (as opposed to responding to such
references) are conspiracy theorists who are convinced, although without
proof, that there is an AFCA cabal but wouldn't want to join because it is,
of course, EVIL.

--
Regards, Peter Boulding
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Fractal Music and Images: http://www.pboulding.co.uk/ and
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=794240&content=music
Les Albert
2010-08-03 16:24:05 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:05:12 +0100, Peter Boulding
<***@UNSPAMpboulding.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:41:37 -0700, Les Albert <***@aol.com> wrote in
><***@4ax.com>:
>
>>Cabal: a conspiratorial group of plotters or intriguers.
>
>With the added implication that it's a (usually secret) group within a
>group.
>
>>An AFCA cabal has existed here for years. Some of its members have
>>been identified, but they deny that there is an AFCA cabal.
>
>Not so.
>
>Real members of the AFCA cabal never refer to it, either to confirm or deny
>such an accusation (see Rule Two). Wannabes--some of whom, like myself, have
>spent years hoping in vain for an invite--try to ingratiate themselves with
>the cabal by posting responses along the lines of "There Is No Cabal" (or
>TINC for short) but it doesn't work (well, not for me, at any rate). Those
>who gratuitously refer to the cabal (as opposed to responding to such
>references) are conspiracy theorists who are convinced, although without
>proof, that there is an AFCA cabal but wouldn't want to join because it is,
>of course, EVIL.


I can't discuss this.

Les
Greg Goss
2010-08-02 14:59:30 UTC
Permalink
rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:

>On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>
>> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
>> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
>> >funny.
>>
>> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>
>> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>>
>> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>> languished, unoptioned.
>>
>> Bah.
>
>
>In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?

Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
bill van
2010-08-02 17:43:27 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:

> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
> >>
> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
> >> >funny.
> >>
> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
> >>
> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
> >>
> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> >> languished, unoptioned.
> >>
> >> Bah.
> >
> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>
> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?

Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
Boron Elgar
2010-08-02 17:46:37 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
<***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:

>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>
>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>> >>
>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
>> >> >funny.
>> >>
>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>> >>
>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>> >>
>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>> >>
>> >> Bah.
>> >
>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>
>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>
>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.


Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
Alexandre Dumas, fils.
Alan J
2010-08-02 19:26:46 UTC
Permalink
"Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
> <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>>
>>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>> >>
>>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
>>> >> >laughed
>>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
>>> >> >to be
>>> >> >funny.
>>> >>
>>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>> >>
>>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>>> >>
>>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bah.
>>> >
>>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>>
>>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>>
>>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>
>
> Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
> Alexandre Dumas, fils.


Oh.
I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
pastry.

--
Alan
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-02 19:36:58 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 2, 3:26 pm, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid> wrote:
> "Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:***@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
> > <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
> >> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>
> >>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> >>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
> >>> >> >laughed
> >>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
> >>> >> >to be
> >>> >> >funny.
>
> >>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>
> >>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> >>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>
> >>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> >>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> >>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>
> >>> >> Bah.
>
> >>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>
> >>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>
> >>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>
> > Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
> > Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>
> Oh.
> I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
> pastry.

I read one of those. It was rather filosophical.
Alan J
2010-08-02 20:00:40 UTC
Permalink
***@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Aug 2, 3:26 pm, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid> wrote:
>> "Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:***@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
>>> <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>>>>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>>>>>> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
>>>>>>>> laughed
>>>>>>>> more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> funny.
>>>>>>> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>>>>>> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>>>>>>> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>>>>>>> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>>>>>>> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>>>>>>> languished, unoptioned.
>>>>>>> Bah.
>>>>>> In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>>>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>>>> Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>>> Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
>>> Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>> Oh.
>> I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
>> pastry.
>
> I read one of those. It was rather filosophical.

Puffed up with multiple layers of meaning?
Boron Elgar
2010-08-02 20:13:39 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:36:58 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 2, 3:26 pm, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid> wrote:
>> "Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:***@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
>> > <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>> >> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>>
>> >>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>
>> >>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
>> >>> >> >laughed
>> >>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
>> >>> >> >to be
>> >>> >> >funny.
>>
>> >>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>
>> >>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>> >>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>>
>> >>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>> >>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>> >>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>>
>> >>> >> Bah.
>>
>> >>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>
>> >>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>>
>> >>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>>
>> > Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
>> > Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>>
>> Oh.
>> I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
>> pastry.
>
>I read one of those. It was rather filosophical.

You're nuts, honey....be careful you don't get hit with bak lava.
bill van
2010-08-02 21:22:05 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@4ax.com>,
Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:36:58 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 2, 3:26 pm, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid> wrote:
> >> "Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:***@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
> >> > <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
> >>
> >> >>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
> >> >>> >> >laughed
> >> >>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
> >> >>> >> >to be
> >> >>> >> >funny.
> >>
> >> >>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
> >>
> >> >>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> >> >>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
> >>
> >> >>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> >> >>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> >> >>> >> languished, unoptioned.
> >>
> >> >>> >> Bah.
> >>
> >> >>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
> >>
> >> >>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
> >>
> >> >>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
> >>
> >> > Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
> >> > Alexandre Dumas, fils.
> >>
> >> Oh.
> >> I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
> >> pastry.
> >
> >I read one of those. It was rather filosophical.
>
> You're nuts, honey....be careful you don't get hit with bak lava.

You're looking a little pastry-faced, Boron.
bill van
2010-08-03 01:14:40 UTC
Permalink
In article <billvan-***@news.shawcable.net>,
bill van <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:

> You're looking a little pastry-faced, Boron.

My ISP and I would, or at least should, like to apologize for several
duplicated posts this afternoon. The details are tedious, but in
essence, the news server says it can't post, so I try again. But it's
lying. And so on.

bill
Boron Elgar
2010-08-03 01:36:53 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:14:40 -0700, bill van
<***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:

>In article <billvan-***@news.shawcable.net>,
> bill van <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> You're looking a little pastry-faced, Boron.
>
>My ISP and I would, or at least should, like to apologize for several
>duplicated posts this afternoon. The details are tedious, but in
>essence, the news server says it can't post, so I try again. But it's
>lying. And so on.
>
>bill

Hey, gimme back my pastry!

Boron
bill van
2010-08-02 21:42:30 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@4ax.com>,
Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:36:58 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 2, 3:26 pm, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid> wrote:
> >> "Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> news:***@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
> >> > <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
> >> >> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
> >>
> >> >>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
> >> >>> >> >laughed
> >> >>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
> >> >>> >> >to be
> >> >>> >> >funny.
> >>
> >> >>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
> >>
> >> >>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> >> >>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
> >>
> >> >>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> >> >>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> >> >>> >> languished, unoptioned.
> >>
> >> >>> >> Bah.
> >>
> >> >>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
> >>
> >> >>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
> >>
> >> >>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
> >>
> >> > Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
> >> > Alexandre Dumas, fils.
> >>
> >> Oh.
> >> I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
> >> pastry.
> >
> >I read one of those. It was rather filosophical.
>
> You're nuts, honey....be careful you don't get hit with bak lava.

You're looking a little pastry-faced, Boron.
Boron Elgar
2010-08-03 00:04:18 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:42:30 -0700, bill van
<***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:

>In article <***@4ax.com>,
> Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:36:58 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Aug 2, 3:26 pm, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid> wrote:
>> >> "Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> news:***@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
>> >> > <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>> >> >> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>> >>
>> >> >>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
>> >> >>> >> >laughed
>> >> >>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
>> >> >>> >> >to be
>> >> >>> >> >funny.
>> >>
>> >> >>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>> >>
>> >> >>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>> >> >>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>> >> >>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>> >> >>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Bah.
>> >>
>> >> >>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>> >>
>> >> >>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>> >>
>> >> >>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>> >>
>> >> > Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
>> >> > Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>> >>
>> >> Oh.
>> >> I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
>> >> pastry.
>> >
>> >I read one of those. It was rather filosophical.
>>
>> You're nuts, honey....be careful you don't get hit with bak lava.
>
>You're looking a little pastry-faced, Boron.

I'm getting pist(achio).

Boron
Mac
2010-08-03 00:06:37 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:04:18 -0400, Boron Elgar
<***@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:42:30 -0700, bill van
><***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>In article <***@4ax.com>,
>> Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 12:36:58 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Aug 2, 3:26 pm, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid> wrote:
>>> >> "Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >>
>>> >> news:***@4ax.com...
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
>>> >> > <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>>> >> >> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
>>> >> >>> >> >laughed
>>> >> >>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
>>> >> >>> >> >to be
>>> >> >>> >> >funny.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>>> >> >>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>>> >> >>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>>> >> >>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> >> Bah.
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>> >>
>>> >> >>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>>> >>
>>> >> >>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>>> >>
>>> >> > Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
>>> >> > Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>>> >>
>>> >> Oh.
>>> >> I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
>>> >> pastry.
>>> >
>>> >I read one of those. It was rather filosophical.
>>>
>>> You're nuts, honey....be careful you don't get hit with bak lava.
>>
>>You're looking a little pastry-faced, Boron.
>
>I'm getting pist(achio).

You're just pudding us on.
Boron Elgar
2010-08-02 20:12:34 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:26:46 +0100, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid>
wrote:

>"Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>news:***@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
>> <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>>> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>>> >>
>>>> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I
>>>> >> >laughed
>>>> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed
>>>> >> >to be
>>>> >> >funny.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>>>> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>>>> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>>>> >> languished, unoptioned.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Bah.
>>>> >
>>>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>>>
>>>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>>
>>
>> Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
>> Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>
>
>Oh.
>I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
>pastry.

The most delectable of novels.

Boron
Rick B.
2010-08-02 21:58:19 UTC
Permalink
Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote in
news:***@4ax.com:

> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:26:46 +0100, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>"Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:***@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
>>> <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>>>> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:

>>>>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>>>>
>>>>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
>>> Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>>
>>
>>Oh.
>>I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
>>pastry.
>
> The most delectable of novels.

"Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be
chewed and digested..."
--Francis Bacon
Alan J
2010-08-02 22:34:00 UTC
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"Rick B." <***@sprynet.com.aq> wrote in message
news:***@130.133.4.11...
> Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote in
> news:***@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:26:46 +0100, "Alan J" <***@dontuse.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Boron Elgar" <***@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:***@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:27 -0700, bill van
>>>> <***@separatethis.shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article <***@mid.individual.net>,
>>>>> Greg Goss <***@gossg.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> rroger <***@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> >In your usage, what does "fil" mean/stand for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wasn't that a miniature elephant with a branching trunk?
>>>>>
>>>>>Nah. It just means, suitable for landfil.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Or it may come up somehow in a discussion of French lit.......
>>>> Alexandre Dumas, fils.
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh.
>>>I assumed it was just a typo, and you meant SF novels made out of
>>>pastry.
>>
>> The most delectable of novels.
>
> "Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to
> be
> chewed and digested..."
> --Francis Bacon


Yes indeed, but keep the bucket handy if you're sampling Dan Brown.
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-02 13:00:32 UTC
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On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
> >funny.
>
> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>
> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> old-time favorite SF novels/series.

This was the 2010 version

> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> languished, unoptioned.

Did you like Starship Troopers......

Artyw "Then there's Battlefield Earth" 2
Boron Elgar
2010-08-02 14:19:15 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:00:32 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>
>> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
>> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
>> >funny.
>>
>> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>>
>> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
>> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>
>This was the 2010 version

I have been stoopid enough to order a copy of it, but only for about
$6.
>
>> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
>> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
>> languished, unoptioned.
>
>Did you like Starship Troopers......

Liked the book better. Besides, The Forever War is better material
anyway.
>
>Artyw "Then there's Battlefield Earth" 2
>
Neither read the book through nor saw the movie.

I never cared for Hubbard as an SF author and once the cult got going,
I took a stand against anything connected to his books.

Boron
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-02 14:24:36 UTC
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On Aug 2, 10:19 am, Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:00:32 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
> >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
> >> >funny.
>
> >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>
> >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>
> >This was the 2010 version
>
> I have been stoopid enough to order a copy of it, but only for about
> $6.
>
>
>
> >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> >> languished, unoptioned.
>
> >Did you like Starship Troopers......
>
> Liked the book better. Besides, The Forever War is better material
> anyway.
>
> >Artyw "Then there's Battlefield Earth" 2
>
> Neither read the book through nor saw the movie.
>
> I never cared for Hubbard as an SF author and once the cult got going,
> I took a stand against anything connected to his books.

The book was kind of dumb fun pulp SF, though it was too long (I
didn't read of the others of the series). I didn't see the movie.
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-02 14:35:39 UTC
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On Aug 2, 10:24 am, "***@yahoo.com" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 10:19 am, Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 06:00:32 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> > <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >On Aug 2, 8:28 am, Boron Elgar <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> > >> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> >Last night I saw Riverworld, based on the famous SF novel. I laughed
> > >> >more than Groo did watching "Cold Souls". But it wasn't supposed to be
> > >> >funny.
>
> > >> You saw the 2010 mini-series or the 2003 (4?) 2 hr version?
>
> > >> I do not know why they cannot make decent fil renditions of my
> > >> old-time favorite SF novels/series.
>
> > >This was the 2010 version
>
> > I have been stoopid enough to order a copy of it, but only for about
> > $6.
>
> > >> Riverworld, Ringworld, Ender, Gateway and Dune...some have been
> > >> botched, some just vanished after being optioned, some just
> > >> languished, unoptioned.
>
> > >Did you like Starship Troopers......
>
> > Liked the book better. Besides, The Forever War is better material
> > anyway.
>
> > >Artyw "Then there's Battlefield Earth" 2
>
> > Neither read the book through nor saw the movie.
>
> > I never cared for Hubbard as an SF author and once the cult got going,
> > I took a stand against anything connected to his books.
>
> The book was kind of dumb fun pulp SF, though it was too long (I
> didn't read of the others of the series). I didn't see the movie.

The last decent SF movie I saw was Moon. And even then the science was
somewhat iffy...
Boron Elgar
2010-08-02 15:03:43 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:


>The last decent SF movie I saw was Moon. And even then the science was
>somewhat iffy...

It is so rare for any SF film to pay attention to science, that I
deliberately suspend some disbelief.

Granted, the very nature of SF takes it beyond current knowledge, but
even so, it is nice when general principles hold. If idea are so far
beyond even the most broad of SF conventions (not the con sort), then
I do get ticked.

Boron
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-02 15:28:59 UTC
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On Aug 2, 11:03 am, Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>
> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >The last decent SF movie I saw was Moon. And even then the science was
> >somewhat iffy...
>
> It is so rare for any SF film to pay attention to science, that I
> deliberately suspend some disbelief.
>
> Granted, the very nature of SF takes it beyond current knowledge, but
> even so, it is nice when general principles hold. If idea are so far
> beyond even the most broad of SF conventions (not the con sort), then
> I do get ticked.

In Moon, there was a game of ping pong, which appeared to be played at
earth gravity. I suppose one could have artificial gravity inside a
moon station, but it is not trivial. Some scenes outside the station
(such as a fuel station blowing out debris) seemed also to be taking
place at an earthlike gravity. Maybe the movie was too low budget to
simulate the moon gravity?
Greg Goss
2010-08-02 17:07:07 UTC
Permalink
"***@yahoo.com" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> It is so rare for any SF film to pay attention to science, that I
>> deliberately suspend some disbelief.
>>
>> Granted, the very nature of SF takes it beyond current knowledge, but
>> even so, it is nice when general principles hold. If idea are so far
>> beyond even the most broad of SF conventions (not the con sort), then
>> I do get ticked.
>
>In Moon, there was a game of ping pong, which appeared to be played at
>earth gravity. I suppose one could have artificial gravity inside a
>moon station, but it is not trivial. Some scenes outside the station
>(such as a fuel station blowing out debris) seemed also to be taking
>place at an earthlike gravity. Maybe the movie was too low budget to
>simulate the moon gravity?

Explosion debris is easy to slow down. Just slow the film down. The
big problem is dust. In a vacuum, it falls as fast as any rock.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
groo
2010-08-04 23:24:00 UTC
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"***@yahoo.com" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Aug 2, 11:03 am, Boron Elgar <***@hootmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 07:35:39 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
>>
>> <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >The last decent SF movie I saw was Moon. And even then the science
>> >was somewhat iffy...
>>
>> It is so rare for any SF film to pay attention to science, that I
>> deliberately suspend some disbelief.
>>
>> Granted, the very nature of SF takes it beyond current knowledge, but
>> even so, it is nice when general principles hold. If idea are so far
>> beyond even the most broad of SF conventions (not the con sort), then
>> I do get ticked.
>
> In Moon, there was a game of ping pong, which appeared to be played at
> earth gravity. I suppose one could have artificial gravity inside a
> moon station, but it is not trivial. Some scenes outside the station
> (such as a fuel station blowing out debris) seemed also to be taking
> place at an earthlike gravity. Maybe the movie was too low budget to
> simulate the moon gravity?
>

We watched "2012" last weekend. I wasn't expecting a great plot or
great science. But there were a few things that were extraordinarily
wacko:

1. Neutrinos changing their properties? Good stuff; actually happens.
Neutrinos changing and being absorbed by the Earth's core? OK, not too
bad a premise for a disaster movie, although not totally without some
logical issues. Neutrinos changing because of a planetary alignment?
WTF is wrong with you?

2. No self respecting scientist would say that the rate of heating
something is "increasing with incredible velocity". Even my wife was
jarred by it, and she's not a nerd.

3. When you are down in a mine and everyone is complaining about how
incredibly hot it is, including you, TAKE OFF YOUR JACKET, IDIOT.





--
Oh, and when you drive from LA to Yellowstone, don't go through San
Francisco, you putz.
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-05 16:57:16 UTC
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On Aug 4, 7:24 pm, groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:



> Oh, and when you drive from LA to Yellowstone, don't go through San
> Francisco, you putz.

That's the scenic route.
Les Albert
2010-08-05 17:15:22 UTC
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On Aug 4, 7:24 pm, groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Oh, and when you drive from LA to Yellowstone, don't go through San
>> Francisco, you putz.


Soon to be a major movie sequel: "Dinner For Putzes".

Les
QueBarbara
2010-08-05 20:43:55 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 09:57:16 -0700 (PDT), "***@yahoo.com"
<***@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Aug 4, 7:24 pm, groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Oh, and when you drive from LA to Yellowstone, don't go through San
>> Francisco, you putz.
>
>That's the scenic route.

They should have taken that left turn in Albuquerque

--
QueBarbara

The trouble with trouble is that it starts out as fun.
Brettster
2010-08-05 06:38:26 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 2, 7:35 am, "***@yahoo.com" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The last decent SF movie I saw was Moon. And even then the science was
> somewhat iffy...

That was great! Really enjoyed it.
Brettster
2010-08-05 06:36:57 UTC
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On Aug 1, 6:48 pm, groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, another one I'm pretty sure you'd like - (500) Days of Summer.  

You seem to know me pretty well. I saw it twice. Loved it.
Also: An Education.
M C Hamster
2010-08-03 02:02:02 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000 (UTC), groo <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
>> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
>> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
>> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
>> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
>> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
>> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
>> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
>> like those too.
>>
>
>
>Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
>
>Memento. One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
>

Have you seen "Inception" yet? It sounds somewhat like Memento.

I've got Memento on my DVR and I'm waiting for my wife to get home so
we can watch it again, and maybe just run it backwards.
Greg Goss
2010-08-03 03:33:11 UTC
Permalink
M C Hamster <***@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:

>I've got Memento on my DVR and I'm waiting for my wife to get home so
>we can watch it again, and maybe just run it backwards.

Apparently for one of the DVD versions you can enter an "easter egg"
code and get it to play in chronological order. Too bad these tricks
don't work on PVR and streaming movies.
--
Tomorrow is today already.
Greg Goss, 1989-01-27
groo
2010-08-04 23:26:19 UTC
Permalink
M C Hamster <***@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000 (UTC), groo <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
>>> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
>>> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
>>> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
>>> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
>>> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
>>> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
>>> cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
>>> like those too.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
>>
>>Memento. One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
>>
>
> Have you seen "Inception" yet? It sounds somewhat like Memento.

Not yet, but I plan to.


> I've got Memento on my DVR and I'm waiting for my wife to get home so
> we can watch it again, and maybe just run it backwards.

I think on one of the DVD releases there's a special option to show the
scenes in reverse order. I've never watched it that way, but it would be
interesting.





--
"In lieu of answering your question, I'll mention moose droppings." -
RichT, afca
groo
2010-08-12 23:31:09 UTC
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groo <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> M C Hamster <***@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000 (UTC), groo <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially
>>>> interested in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit
>>>> your suggestions to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm
>>>> not interested in anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi,
>>>> mafia/gangster, fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to
>>>> discover films that are small, potentially obscure/indie—the
>>>> anti-Inception. Your choices should be absorbing, moving and
>>>> well-written, without a lot of cliches. If you know of a thriller,
>>>> romance drama or tearjerker, I like those too.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
>>>
>>>Memento. One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
>>
>> Have you seen "Inception" yet? It sounds somewhat like Memento.
>
> Not yet, but I plan to.

Went to see Inception last weekend. Good movie, but not as good as
Memento. I'd probably give it an A- or B+. The basic premise and plot
were good and well executed for the most part. The FX were awesome. The
ending was very good, probably the only way they could end it.

Some things I didn't like (I don't think there are any spoilers here):

1. The premise/plot is a bit too complicated, so you spend a lot of time
thinking about what was just explained instead of paying attention to and
enjoying what's going on. It might be more enjoyable to re-watch, but
then I'd probably be looking for logical inconsistencies all the time.

2. I like Ellen Page, but her character's introduction was too abrupt
and one dimensional. They used her as a tool to explain the premise and
plot points rather than as a character you cared about.

3. I thought Gordon-Levitt was miscast. Or he did a poor job, I dunno.
I didn't believe him, particularly as an action hero in the hotel scenes.

4. Why did they call the Escher staircase a Penrose staircase? Just to
prove they'd heard of Penrose?





--
"In lieu of answering your question, I'll mention moose droppings." -
RichT, afca
David J. Martin
2010-08-13 14:51:33 UTC
Permalink
On 8/12/2010 6:31 PM, groo wrote:
> groo<***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> M C Hamster<***@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 00:29:24 +0000 (UTC), groo<***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Brettster<***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially
>>>>> interested in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit
>>>>> your suggestions to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm
>>>>> not interested in anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi,
>>>>> mafia/gangster, fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to
>>>>> discover films that are small, potentially obscure/indie—the
>>>>> anti-Inception. Your choices should be absorbing, moving and
>>>>> well-written, without a lot of cliches. If you know of a thriller,
>>>>> romance drama or tearjerker, I like those too.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
>>>>
>>>> Memento. One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
>>>
>>> Have you seen "Inception" yet? It sounds somewhat like Memento.
>>
>> Not yet, but I plan to.
>
> Went to see Inception last weekend. Good movie, but not as good as
> Memento. I'd probably give it an A- or B+.

IMDB users currently rate it as the third best movie of all time. I'd
put more credence in that if Shawshank wasn't number 1. Memento is
number 29.

David
Opus the Penguin
2010-08-15 03:19:13 UTC
Permalink
groo (***@gmail.com) wrote:

> Went to see Inception last weekend. Good movie, but not as good
> as Memento.

Agreed.


> I'd probably give it an A- or B+. The basic premise
> and plot were good and well executed for the most part. The FX
> were awesome. The ending was very good, probably the only way they
> could end it.
>
> Some things I didn't like (I don't think there are any spoilers
> here):
>
> 1. The premise/plot is a bit too complicated, so you spend a lot
> of time thinking about what was just explained instead of paying
> attention to and enjoying what's going on. It might be more
> enjoyable to re-watch, but then I'd probably be looking for
> logical inconsistencies all the time.
>

I think it could have benefited from being longer--one of the few
times that's the case with a movie.


> 2. I like Ellen Page, but her character's introduction was too
> abrupt and one dimensional. They used her as a tool to explain
> the premise and plot points rather than as a character you cared
> about.
>

Agreed. And I'd really expand that to all the characters. There
wasn't a one of them I reacted strongly to. I didn't like anyone
particularly and didn't hate anyone either. Any affection I had for
Ellen Page's character was probably more for the actress and for
Juno. They could've killed Leo's wife in front of him and the moment
would've fallen flat for me because I just didn't care about them.

I think character is Nolan's weakness. He doesn't know how to make
you care about the people. His movies seem sort of detached and cool.
That worked to his advantage in Memento. It worked against him in The
Dark Knight and Inception.


> 3. I thought Gordon-Levitt was miscast. Or he did a poor job, I
> dunno. I didn't believe him, particularly as an action hero in the
> hotel scenes.
>

Hmmm, maybe. I liked him in the role, but I can see reacting that
way.


> 4. Why did they call the Escher staircase a Penrose staircase?
> Just to prove they'd heard of Penrose?

Mostly because that's what it is. It's what an architect would know
it as, I bet.

My other main problem with the film was the same problem I had with
The Matrix. There's this world of endless possibilities open and they
end up making very conventional action movie choices with a few bells
and whistles. In The Matrix, it was a gunfight. A *gunfight* for
cryin' out loud! Only they slowed the bullets down a bit. They could
have done *anything* and that's the best they could come up with?

In Inception it was standard Jason Bourne and Ocean's N+1 stuff, only
with the topsy-turviness and weightlessness when the van was tumbling
and then falling. Whoopee. It's sad to watch a movie with the premise
of Inception and almost never think to use the word "surreal".

Bottom line: I liked the movie at the time, but it shrank on me.

--
Opus the Penguin
The best darn penguin in all of Usenet
Bermuda999
2010-08-05 10:49:40 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 2, 10:02 pm, M C Hamster <***@nospam.speakeasy.net> wrote:


> Have you seen "Inception" yet?  It sounds somewhat like Memento.


The two films. of course, share the same director
Brettster
2010-08-05 06:36:13 UTC
Permalink
> Amelie sounds like it is right up your alley.
> Memento.  One of the best movies ever, but you have to pay attention.
> Reservoir Dogs

Saw them all, loved them.

> Is the mini-series "Lonesome Dove" out on DVD? If so, watch it.

Own it, haven't watched it yet.

> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an
> Australian comedy-drama. I
> think you'd probably enjoy it.

Thanks. I will. (I loved Lonely Hearts, another great Aussie comedy-
drama.)
Les Albert
2010-08-05 14:48:35 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an
>> Australian comedy-drama. I
>> think you'd probably enjoy it.

>Thanks. I will. (I loved Lonely Hearts, another great Aussie comedy-
>drama.)


I recommended "Malcolm", and I also recommend another funny Australian
film, "The Castle".

Les
Veronique
2010-08-05 16:24:34 UTC
Permalink
On Aug 5, 7:48 am, Les Albert <***@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
>
> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an
> >> Australian comedy-drama. I
> >> think you'd probably enjoy it.
> >Thanks. I will. (I loved Lonely Hearts, another great Aussie comedy-
> >drama.)
>
> I recommended "Malcolm", and I also recommend another funny Australian
> film, "The Castle".  


I really liked "I Capture The Castle". Although it's not Australian.


V.
--
Veronique Chez Sheep
QueBarbara
2010-08-05 20:48:04 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:48:35 -0700, Les Albert <***@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an
>>> Australian comedy-drama. I
>>> think you'd probably enjoy it.
>
>>Thanks. I will. (I loved Lonely Hearts, another great Aussie comedy-
>>drama.)
>
>
>I recommended "Malcolm", and I also recommend another funny Australian
>film, "The Castle".
>
Speaking of Aussie films, I enjoyed "Danny Deckchair."

--
QueBarbara

The trouble with trouble is that it starts out as fun.
Paul Madarasz
2010-08-05 20:41:25 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:48:04 -0500, QueBarbara
<***@go-awaygmail.com> wrote, perhaps among other things:

>On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 07:48:35 -0700, Les Albert <***@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
>><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an
>>>> Australian comedy-drama. I
>>>> think you'd probably enjoy it.
>>
>>>Thanks. I will. (I loved Lonely Hearts, another great Aussie comedy-
>>>drama.)
>>
>>
>>I recommended "Malcolm", and I also recommend another funny Australian
>>film, "The Castle".
>>
>Speaking of Aussie films, I enjoyed "Danny Deckchair."

Speaking of Aussie films, there was one I saw a number of years ago;
don't remember the title, but it was about disaffected youth who
either hung out or lived in an airport. There was some business about
a man with a briefcase. I really liked it, but that's all I remember
about it. Any ideas?
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-- Mao Zedong
a***@yahoo.com
2010-08-05 22:28:41 UTC
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On Aug 5, 10:48 am, Les Albert <***@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:36:13 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
>
> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Someone here recently recommended "Malcolm", an
> >> Australian comedy-drama. I
> >> think you'd probably enjoy it.
> >Thanks. I will. (I loved Lonely Hearts, another great Aussie comedy-
> >drama.)
>
> I recommended "Malcolm", and I also recommend another funny Australian
> film, "The Castle".  

I liked that and another Australian film "The Dish"
QueBarbara
2010-08-01 02:31:54 UTC
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Brettster
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

>I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
>in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
>to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
>anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
>fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
>small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception. Your choices
>should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
>cliches. If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
>like those too.
>
>To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
>this time period:
>
>Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
>Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
>City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
>Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, Crossing Delancey, My Favorite
Year, any Wallace and Grommit movie, Green Card; The Emperor's New
Clothes, In Bruges, Tristram Shandy: A Cock and Bull Story, Hot Fuzz,
What Dreams May Come. The Big Lebowski, of course.

--
QueBarbara

The trouble with trouble is that it starts out as fun.
Bob
2010-08-13 20:30:57 UTC
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On Jul 28, 7:48 pm, Brettster <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am soliciting your movie recommendations. I'm especially interested
> in anything from the last 25 years. You should limit your suggestions
> to character-fueled dramas or comedy-dramas; I'm not interested in
> anything too genre-specific (animated, sci-fi, mafia/gangster,
> fantasy, horror, musical). Mostly I want to discover films that are
> small, potentially obscure/indie—the anti-Inception.

"I Was A Teen-Age Zombie". My friend Allen L. Rickman was in that. A
comedy-drama.

> Your choices
> should be absorbing, moving and well-written, without a lot of
> cliches.

Oh. Never mind the above recommend'ns, then.

> If you know of a thriller, romance drama or tearjerker, I
> like those too.
>
> To give you an idea of some of the movies I've really enjoyed during
> this time period:
>
> Frozen River, The Visitor, SherryBaby, Juno, Fargo, Love and Death on
> Long Island, Please Give, Before Sunrise, Thirteen, Nobody's Fool,
> City Island, Requiem for a Dream, Lost in Translation, Happiness,
> Sideways, Hard Candy, An Education.

I never saw any of those. I was thinking of going to see "City
Island", considering it was advertised at the stop for the bus going
to City Is. and had Alan Arkin in it, but didn't.

> Oh, and I'm definitely not into anything too quirky; I didn't enjoy
> Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums, Paper Heart, Donnie Darko, et al., the way
> others did.

I never saw those either, so again no basis for comparison.

You like satire that doesn't need to be very funny? "Rain Without
Thunder".

You like biography? "Crumb", "Theramin".

Other documentaries? "Secrets of the Shadow World" by George Cuchar.
His friend John Keel was in that.

Bob in the Bronx
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