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Radio London Reminds You
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Opus the Penguin
2006-10-22 02:29:26 UTC
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On The Who's album "Sell Out," there's a brief interlude where the
typical cheesy radio ad choir sings "Radio London reminds you: Go to
the church of your choice." Did Radio London really offer this reminder
circa 1967?
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Pierre Jelenc
2006-10-22 04:14:20 UTC
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On The Who's album "Sell Out," there's a brief interlude where the
typical cheesy radio ad choir sings "Radio London reminds you: Go to
the church of your choice." Did Radio London really offer this reminder
circa 1967?
I don't believe so. But I was listening to Caroline, mostly.

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Mike Williams
2006-10-22 06:05:56 UTC
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Post by Opus the Penguin
On The Who's album "Sell Out," there's a brief interlude where the
typical cheesy radio ad choir sings "Radio London reminds you: Go to
the church of your choice." Did Radio London really offer this reminder
circa 1967?
It's rather unlikely. Many of the other "adverts" on the re-release of
the album are obviously bogus.

The original version of the album did indeed contain some real Radio
London jingles, but there were some lawsuits where the copyright holders
claimed that the jingles had been used without permission.

The copy of the album that I've got doesn't have things like "Wonderful
Radio London - Whoopee!" or "More music, More music" or "It's smooth
sailing with the highly successful sound Of wonderful Radio London!" ,
but it does have "Radio London reminds you: Go to the church of your
choice". My guess would be that's because The Who invented that one, so
there was no copyright problem.
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Anny Middon
2006-10-23 15:11:08 UTC
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The copy of the album that I've got doesn't have things like "Wonderful
Radio London - Whoopee!" or "More music, More music" or "It's smooth
sailing with the highly successful sound Of wonderful Radio London!" ,
but it does have "Radio London reminds you: Go to the church of your
choice". My guess would be that's because The Who invented that one, so
there was no copyright problem.
We use the "More Music, More Music" chant thing all the time Chez Middon. I
assume that means we had the original release of the album. It's a shame
it's not on later releases.

Oddly enough, I remember when Mike bought that album. We were in the
Student Record Service store in Champaign, IL back before we were engaged.
Albums there ran about $4 at the time, a good dollar or so cheaper than most
other places.

The Who Sell Out was in the cutout bin. I think it was $2. That was still
a significant amount to a couple of broke students, so it took Mike a while
to decide to buy it. OOH it had only one song we readily recognized ("I Can
See for Miles"); OTOH it was The Who and they had never yet disappointed.
They did not disappoint on that album, either.

There's only a couple of other albums I actually remember buying.
Strangely, one of them is Tommy.

Anny
Peter Ward
2006-10-23 17:23:18 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:08 GMT, "Anny Middon"
Post by Anny Middon
Post by Mike Williams
The copy of the album that I've got doesn't have things like "Wonderful
Radio London - Whoopee!" or "More music, More music" or "It's smooth
sailing with the highly successful sound Of wonderful Radio London!" ,
but it does have "Radio London reminds you: Go to the church of your
choice". My guess would be that's because The Who invented that one, so
there was no copyright problem.
We use the "More Music, More Music" chant thing all the time Chez Middon. I
assume that means we had the original release of the album. It's a shame
it's not on later releases.
Oddly enough, I remember when Mike bought that album. We were in the
Student Record Service store in Champaign, IL back before we were engaged.
Albums there ran about $4 at the time, a good dollar or so cheaper than most
other places.
The Who Sell Out was in the cutout bin. I think it was $2. That was still
a significant amount to a couple of broke students, so it took Mike a while
to decide to buy it. OOH it had only one song we readily recognized ("I Can
See for Miles"); OTOH it was The Who and they had never yet disappointed.
They did not disappoint on that album, either.
There's only a couple of other albums I actually remember buying.
Strangely, one of them is Tommy.
That's a disappointing album, mostly well below standard. Another was
Quadrophenia. Both doubles, and kind of soundtracks, as it happens.
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Boron Elgar
2006-10-23 18:30:09 UTC
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Post by Peter Ward
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:08 GMT, "Anny Middon"
Post by Anny Middon
Post by Mike Williams
The copy of the album that I've got doesn't have things like "Wonderful
Radio London - Whoopee!" or "More music, More music" or "It's smooth
sailing with the highly successful sound Of wonderful Radio London!" ,
but it does have "Radio London reminds you: Go to the church of your
choice". My guess would be that's because The Who invented that one, so
there was no copyright problem.
We use the "More Music, More Music" chant thing all the time Chez Middon. I
assume that means we had the original release of the album. It's a shame
it's not on later releases.
Oddly enough, I remember when Mike bought that album. We were in the
Student Record Service store in Champaign, IL back before we were engaged.
Albums there ran about $4 at the time, a good dollar or so cheaper than most
other places.
The Who Sell Out was in the cutout bin. I think it was $2. That was still
a significant amount to a couple of broke students, so it took Mike a while
to decide to buy it. OOH it had only one song we readily recognized ("I Can
See for Miles"); OTOH it was The Who and they had never yet disappointed.
They did not disappoint on that album, either.
There's only a couple of other albums I actually remember buying.
Strangely, one of them is Tommy.
That's a disappointing album, mostly well below standard. Another was
Quadrophenia. Both doubles, and kind of soundtracks, as it happens.
I am a big fan of Tommy.

Boron
groo
2006-10-24 15:51:33 UTC
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Post by Peter Ward
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:11:08 GMT, "Anny Middon"
Post by Anny Middon
There's only a couple of other albums I actually remember buying.
Strangely, one of them is Tommy.
That's a disappointing album, mostly well below standard. Another was
Quadrophenia. Both doubles, and kind of soundtracks, as it happens.
I am a big fan of Tommy.
Leroy. I'm particularly fond of "1921".


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Jim Ellwanger
2006-10-22 06:30:54 UTC
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Post by Opus the Penguin
On The Who's album "Sell Out," there's a brief interlude where the
typical cheesy radio ad choir sings "Radio London reminds you: Go to
the church of your choice." Did Radio London really offer this reminder
circa 1967?
I can't speak for whether they actually ever played it on the air, but
it is a legitimate jingle, one of many that Radio London commissioned a
jingle company called PAMS in Dallas, Texas, to make for them. PAMS was
the pre-eminent jingle producer for Top 40 radio stations in the U.S. in
the 1960s, so since Radio London was imitating the formatics of U.S. Top
40 stations, it made sense they would use the same jingles. (When BBC
Radio 1 began in 1967, they also got an assortment of jingles from PAMS.)

That jingle was first available from PAMS in 1961, and here it is as
sung for KILT in Houston...

http://www.ellwanger.tv/collect/jingles/audio/kilt.mp3

...and there was apparently enough demand from radio stations for
jingles to promote church attendance that PAMS did a different jingle
with the same message, in 1963. Here's that one, sung for WPTR in
Albany, New York...

http://www.ellwanger.tv/collect/jingles/audio/wptr.mp3

(Lyrics of the 1963 jingle: "WPTR's church bells are ringing/Plan to
attend this weekend.")
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Opus the Penguin
2006-10-22 13:50:56 UTC
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Post by Opus the Penguin
On The Who's album "Sell Out," there's a brief interlude where
the typical cheesy radio ad choir sings "Radio London reminds
you: Go to the church of your choice." Did Radio London really
offer this reminder circa 1967?
I can't speak for whether they actually ever played it on the air,
but it is a legitimate jingle, one of many that Radio London
commissioned a jingle company called PAMS in Dallas, Texas, to
make for them. PAMS was the pre-eminent jingle producer for Top
40 radio stations in the U.S. in the 1960s, so since Radio London
was imitating the formatics of U.S. Top 40 stations, it made sense
they would use the same jingles. (When BBC Radio 1 began in 1967,
they also got an assortment of jingles from PAMS.)
That jingle was first available from PAMS in 1961, and here it is
as sung for KILT in Houston...
http://www.ellwanger.tv/collect/jingles/audio/kilt.mp3
...and there was apparently enough demand from radio stations for
jingles to promote church attendance that PAMS did a different
jingle with the same message, in 1963. Here's that one, sung for
WPTR in Albany, New York...
http://www.ellwanger.tv/collect/jingles/audio/wptr.mp3
(Lyrics of the 1963 jingle: "WPTR's church bells are ringing/Plan
to attend this weekend.")
Man, that's obnoxious! Thanks.
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Dover Beach
2006-10-22 15:04:10 UTC
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Post by Opus the Penguin
On The Who's album "Sell Out," there's a brief interlude where the
typical cheesy radio ad choir sings "Radio London reminds you: Go to
the church of your choice." Did Radio London really offer this
reminder circa 1967?
I can't speak for whether they actually ever played it on the air, but
it is a legitimate jingle, one of many that Radio London commissioned
a jingle company called PAMS in Dallas, Texas, to make for them. PAMS
was the pre-eminent jingle producer for Top 40 radio stations in the
U.S. in the 1960s, so since Radio London was imitating the formatics
of U.S. Top 40 stations, it made sense they would use the same
jingles. (When BBC Radio 1 began in 1967, they also got an assortment
of jingles from PAMS.)
That jingle was first available from PAMS in 1961, and here it is as
sung for KILT in Houston...
http://www.ellwanger.tv/collect/jingles/audio/kilt.mp3
...and there was apparently enough demand from radio stations for
jingles to promote church attendance that PAMS did a different jingle
with the same message, in 1963. Here's that one, sung for WPTR in
Albany, New York...
http://www.ellwanger.tv/collect/jingles/audio/wptr.mp3
(Lyrics of the 1963 jingle: "WPTR's church bells are ringing/Plan to
attend this weekend.")
Jim, you are a terrific TV archivist. Where are you working these days?
You'd be a huge asset to some cultural heritage institution[1] that
handles video/film/radio.

[1]Museum, library, archive, that sorta thing.
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Opus the Penguin
2006-10-22 18:34:41 UTC
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Jim, you are a terrific TV archivist. Where are you working these
days? You'd be a huge asset to some cultural heritage
institution[1] that handles video/film/radio.
[1]Museum, library, archive, that sorta thing.
Leroy. That answer was much more complete than I thought I'd get.
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Opus the Penguin
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Jim Ellwanger
2006-10-22 22:58:34 UTC
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Post by Dover Beach
Jim, you are a terrific TV archivist. Where are you working these
days? You'd be a huge asset to some cultural heritage
institution[1] that handles video/film/radio.
[1]Museum, library, archive, that sorta thing.
Leroy. That answer was much more complete than I thought I'd get.
Incidentally, if you wanted your very own version of that jingle, sung
as "Opus the Penguin reminds you, go to the church of your choice," or
whatever lyrics you can come up with, and you have a couple hundred
bucks lying around, it's possible to have that done...

http://www.pams.com/pams/personal.html

(The original PAMS company has been out of business since the mid-1970s,
but another jingle company called JAM has the rights to all their old
stuff -- and, perhaps more importantly, has their old master tapes.
Someday I'll have a couple hundred bucks lying around, but I probably
won't have them do the "church" jingle.)
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"The days turn into nights; at night, you hear the trains."
Opus the Penguin
2006-10-23 01:03:06 UTC
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Incidentally, if you wanted your very own version of that jingle,
sung as "Opus the Penguin reminds you, go to the church of your
choice," or whatever lyrics you can come up with, and you have a
couple hundred bucks lying around, it's possible to have that
done...
http://www.pams.com/pams/personal.html
How about "Opus the Penguin reminds you: Don't come to my church just
to meet chicks"?
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Boron Elgar
2006-10-23 01:05:00 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:03:06 GMT, Opus the Penguin
Post by Opus the Penguin
Post by Jim Ellwanger
Incidentally, if you wanted your very own version of that jingle,
sung as "Opus the Penguin reminds you, go to the church of your
choice," or whatever lyrics you can come up with, and you have a
couple hundred bucks lying around, it's possible to have that
done...
http://www.pams.com/pams/personal.html
How about "Opus the Penguin reminds you: Don't come to my church just
to meet chicks"?
Quit holding services in an incubator.

Boron
Dana Carpender
2006-10-23 01:07:30 UTC
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Post by Jim Ellwanger
Incidentally, if you wanted your very own version of that jingle,
sung as "Opus the Penguin reminds you, go to the church of your
choice," or whatever lyrics you can come up with, and you have a
couple hundred bucks lying around, it's possible to have that
done...
http://www.pams.com/pams/personal.html
How about "Opus the Penguin reminds you: Don't come to my church just
to meet chicks"?
But penguin chicks are so cuuute!

Dana
Jim Ellwanger
2006-10-22 22:50:41 UTC
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Post by Dover Beach
Jim, you are a terrific TV archivist. Where are you working these days?
You'd be a huge asset to some cultural heritage institution[1] that
handles video/film/radio.
[1]Museum, library, archive, that sorta thing.
Thanks, although my jingle collection is pretty much the only archiving
I'm doing -- and there are quite a few jingle collectors with much,
much, much larger collections than I. It just so happened this question
was right in my wheelhouse, since I'm principally interested in 1960s
and 1970s jingles and old PAMS material is easier to come by than stuff
from other jingle companies.

While in college, I interviewed for an internship with the Museum of
Broadcast Communications in Chicago, but they didn't hire me. And while
I was unemployed at the beginning of this year, I did send my resume to
their "competitor," the Museum of TV & Radio in Beverly Hills, but I
never heard back from them.

Fortunately, there was a company I actually did hear back from, shortly
before my unemployment insurance checks were about to stop coming: I'm
working as a copy editor, editing the "sponsored search results"
listings for Yahoo!. I started as a temp in May, and was hired as a
full-time Yahoo! employee as of last Monday. I think Yahoo! pays better
than the MT&R would have, and perhaps it's better than I keep my
avocations separate from my vocations.
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"The days turn into nights; at night, you hear the trains."
Opus the Penguin
2006-10-23 01:03:06 UTC
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Post by Jim Ellwanger
Fortunately, there was a company I actually did hear back from,
shortly before my unemployment insurance checks were about to stop
coming: I'm working as a copy editor, editing the "sponsored
search results" listings for Yahoo!. I started as a temp in May,
and was hired as a full-time Yahoo! employee as of last Monday. I
think Yahoo! pays better than the MT&R would have, and perhaps
it's better than I keep my avocations separate from my vocations.
Do you work from home doing this?
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Jim Ellwanger
2006-10-23 21:21:23 UTC
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I'm working as a copy editor, editing the "sponsored search
results" listings for Yahoo!.
Do you work from home doing this?
At the Yahoo! Search Marketing offices in Burbank (not beautiful
downtown Burbank -- near the airport).
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"The days turn into nights; at night, you hear the trains."
Charles Wm. Dimmick
2006-10-22 12:23:31 UTC
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Post by Opus the Penguin
On The Who's album "Sell Out," there's a brief interlude where the
typical cheesy radio ad choir sings "Radio London reminds you: Go to
the church of your choice." Did Radio London really offer this reminder
circa 1967?
Donno about Radio London, but this was a standard newspaper and
radio ad here in the US of A from about 1948-1958, usually as
"Go to the Church of your choice, but go". Many spoof spinoffs,
such as "Worship the god of your choice", or Mad Magazine's
"Be the first in your neighborhood to start a new religion".

See also the end of the article at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Lowrance

Charles
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